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Trading from a phone

Basics: how a trade and an account work3 min read
What you learn in 3 minutesThis lesson is about the word the platform uses for the smallest price move, the pip, and what happens to that number when the chart is only six inches wide. A phone app places the same orders as a desktop terminal, but it shows you far less of the chart at once, so the size of a move matters more than the shape of it. On AUD/USD around 0.6640, one pip is 0.0001, and on one standard lot that pip is worth A$10 divided by the current rate, which is roughly A$15.06 at 0.6640.
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A schematic diagram of a six-inch phone screen: a small price chart fills the top third, a buy and sell button sit below it, and the account balance and open position sit at the bottom, with the parts that a desktop terminal would show marked as missing.

What the app calls a trade and how it records one

A trade on a phone is still a contract between two prices. The app gives that contract a name, a direction, a size and a time. The direction is either buy or sell. The size is written in lots. One standard lot on AUD/USD is 100,000 units of the base currency, which is the Australian dollar in this pair. A mini lot is 0.10 of that, and a micro lot is 0.01. The app shows the size as a decimal, so 0.05 means five micro lots.

The app also shows two prices side by side. The lower one is where you can sell, and the higher one is where you can buy. The gap between them is the spread. That gap is not a fee added later. It is already inside the price you receive. On a small screen the two numbers sit close together, so the spread looks like a single figure. It is two. If the spread is three pips, a buy starts three pips behind the sell price at the same moment.

Every open position carries a running profit or loss in the account currency. The app updates that number as the price moves. It does not tell you whether the number is large or small for your account. That judgement is yours. The same A$11.30 move is a different event on a A$500 account than on a A$50,000 account. The app shows the amount, not its weight.

How a small screen changes the size of a move you can see

A phone chart shows fewer candles than a desktop chart at the same zoom. A candle is one unit of time, such as one hour or one day. If the screen fits sixty hourly candles, it covers about two and a half days. The desktop may fit several hundred, covering weeks. Both charts are correct. They answer different questions. The phone answers what happened recently. The desktop answers where the price has been.

The range of a market is the distance between its highest and lowest price over a period. On AUD/USD around 0.6640, a quiet week might travel 80 pips, and a busy week might travel 200. One pip is 0.0001. If the visible chart holds only the last forty pips, a fifteen-pip move fills more than a third of the screen. It looks like a trend. On a chart holding two hundred pips, the same move is a small step. The picture changes, the market does not.

This matters because the eye reads proportion, not numbers. A candle that fills half the screen feels important. The same candle on a wider view looks ordinary. The fix is to set the chart to a longer time frame before judging any move. On the phone, switch from the fifteen-minute chart to the four-hour or daily chart. Note the high and the low of the past week. Write both numbers down. Then return to the shorter chart and compare the move against that range. If the move is a small part of the weekly range, it is small.

What the phone cannot show and where that leaves the decision

The phone can place every order type the desktop terminal can. It can set a stop loss, a take profit, and a limit order. It can close part of a position. What it cannot do is show enough of the chart at once to judge the wider range without extra taps. That is a limit of the screen, not of the account. The order is the same order. The information behind it is thinner.

A stop loss is an order that closes the position at a chosen price to limit the loss. On a narrow chart, a stop placed just below the last few candles may sit inside the normal daily movement. The price can reach it without changing the wider picture. A stop placed against the weekly range is a different decision. The phone makes the first easy and the second awkward, because the weekly range is off screen. The app will accept either stop. It will not warn you which one you chose.

The practical rule is to make the decision where the range is visible and place the order where it is convenient. Use the phone to enter the order, set the stop and check the fill. Use a wider chart, on the phone or elsewhere, to decide the size and the stop level first. If you cannot see the weekly range on the device in your hand, the device is not the place to choose the trade. It is still a fine place to send one you have already chosen.

Twenty pips on 0.10 lots of AUD/USD

StepAmountNote
InstrumentAUD/USDthe pair used in this lesson
Price0.6640the level used for the conversion
One pip0.0001the fourth decimal place on this pair
Position size0.10 lotsone tenth of a standard lot
Pips moved20the distance the price travels
Pip value on 0.10 lotsA$1.51A$10 x 0.10 = A$1.00, then A$1.00 / 0.6640 = A$1.5060
Result of the moveA$30.12A$1.5060 x 20 pips = A$30.12

The broker may round the pip value, charge a spread when the position opens, and add a commission or a swap if the position is held overnight. Those amounts vary between brokers, so the figure above is not the amount that lands in the account.

Doing it once, step by step

The reader will set up the phone app so that the chart shows a useful range before any order is placed. Each step is done once, in order, and takes a few minutes.

  1. 01

    Open the chart and switch to the daily time frame

    Find the time frame control, usually a row of labels such as 15m, 1h, 4h and 1D. Tap 1D. The chart now shows one candle per day. This is the widest view the phone offers without scrolling. Leave it there for the next step.

  2. 02

    Note the high and the low of the past week

    Look at the last five daily candles. Read the highest price and the lowest price they touch. Write both numbers down, or take a screenshot. Subtract the low from the high to get the weekly range in pips. On AUD/USD around 0.6640, a range of 0.0080 is 80 pips.

  3. 03

    Return to the shorter chart and compare

    Switch back to the 15m or 1h chart. Find the move you were about to act on. Compare its size with the weekly range you wrote down. If the move is less than a quarter of that range, it is a small part of the week. Treat it as small.

  4. 04

    Decide the size and the stop before touching the order button

    Choose the lot size from the account balance, not from the chart. One pip on one standard lot of AUD/USD is A$10 divided by the rate, which is about A$15.06 at 0.6640. On 0.05 lots that pip is A$0.7530. Set the stop at a level the weekly range supports, not at the edge of the visible screen.

  5. 05

    Place the order and check the fill

    Enter the order on the phone, then read the confirmation. Check the entry price, the size, the stop and the take profit. The broker may round the pip value, charge a spread when the position opens, and add a commission or a swap if the position is held overnight. Those amounts vary between brokers.

  6. 06

    Record the trade and the reason for it

    Write one line in a notebook: the pair, the size, the weekly range, and the reason. This takes a minute and shows later whether the decision came from the chart or from the screen. Do not add a second trade to fix the first. Close the app and leave the position to its stop.

The mistake most people make here

The common mistake is to treat the phone as a smaller version of the desktop terminal and to take a trade on the strength of the last few candles that fit on the screen. Those candles show a short distance, not the wider range the price has travelled over days. The fix is to zoom out first, note the high and the low of the past week, and only then decide whether the move you are looking at is large or small. If the screen cannot show that range, the phone is the wrong place to make the decision.

Check yourself

AUD/USD is at 0.6640. One standard lot moves 15 pips in your favour. What is the result in A$?

One pip on one standard lot is A$10 / 0.6640 = A$15.06. A$15.06 x 15 pips = A$225.90.

The same 15 pips, but on 0.05 lots. What is the result in A$?

A$15.06 x 0.05 = A$0.7530 per pip. A$0.7530 x 15 pips = A$11.30.

Questions that come up next

Does the app show a different price from the desktop platform

No. The price comes from the same market and the same broker feed, so the numbers match. What differs is how much of the chart fits on the screen at one time. The phone shows fewer candles, so the same price move looks larger. The price is identical, the picture is not.

Why does the same fifteen-pip move feel bigger on a phone

Because the eye judges a candle by how much of the screen it fills, not by its pip value. On a narrow view, fifteen pips can cover a third of the chart and look like a strong trend. On a wider view, the same fifteen pips is a small step. The market has not changed, only the scale.

How do I check the weekly range before placing an order

Open the chart and switch to a daily time frame, then note the highest and lowest price of the past five days. Write those two numbers down. Return to your usual time frame and compare the move you are watching against that range. If the move is a small part of the week, it is small.

Can I place the same order sizes on a phone as on a desktop

Yes. The app accepts the same lot sizes, from 0.01 up to the maximum your account allows. The order ticket, stop and limit levels are the same. Only the chart view is reduced. Size is not limited by the device.

What does the running profit figure on the app not tell me

It shows the amount in dollars but not what that amount means for your account. The same A$11.30 is small on a A$50,000 account and large on a A$500 one. The app does not compare the figure with your balance. That comparison is yours to make.

Is a phone suitable for holding a position overnight

It can be, but the small chart makes it harder to see the wider range the price may travel while you sleep. A swap or commission may also apply to positions held overnight, and those amounts vary between brokers. Check the contract details before you rely on the phone alone.

In Australia

Regulator
ASIC
Money
A$ (AUD)
Payment methods
PayID, BPAY and cards
Pip value on one standard lot of AUD/USD
A$10 divided by the current AUD/USD rate
Instrument in this lesson
AUD/USD, around 0.6640

The words used on this page

pip
The smallest standard price move a currency pair is quoted in. On AUD/USD one pip is 0.0001, so a move from 0.6640 to 0.6641 is one pip.
lot
The unit the app uses to measure trade size. One standard lot on AUD/USD is 100,000 Australian dollars, a mini lot is 0.10 of that, and a micro lot is 0.01.
spread
The gap between the price at which you can sell and the price at which you can buy. It is already inside the price you receive, not a separate fee added later.
range
The distance between the highest and lowest price of a market over a set period. A quiet week on AUD/USD might travel 80 pips, a busy week 200.
candle
One unit of time on a chart, such as one hour or one day. It shows the open, close, high and low of that period in a single shape.
time frame
The length of time each candle on a chart represents. A daily time frame shows one candle per day, while an hourly time frame shows one per hour.

What to take away

  • The app places the same orders as a desktop terminal, but it shows far fewer candles at once.
  • A move that fills the phone screen can be a small step on a wider view, so check the weekly range before deciding.
  • The running profit figure is an amount in dollars, not a judgement about whether it is large for your account.
  • Spread, commission and swap vary between brokers, so the pip value is not the amount that lands in the account.
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