Deposits and withdrawals with local methods
A deposit of A$500 can arrive in minutes through PayID, or take one or two business days through BPAY. A withdrawal usually returns by the same method the deposit came from, so the route in decides the route out.
Payment method names on the deposit screen
The deposit screen lists each method by name. PayID is a payment address that looks like an email address or a phone number. You send money to that address from your own bank app. The broker receives it through the same local system your bank uses. No card details are entered. No international transfer is made.
BPAY is a bill payment. The broker gives you a biller code and a reference number. You enter those in your bank app. The money moves through the bill payment system, not the card system. It is not instant. The broker sees the payment when the system settles it, often the next business day. Cards are different again. A card payment is authorised immediately. The money is taken from your card and sent through the card network. The broker sees it quickly, but the card network adds its own rules.
Read the label next to each method. It tells you which system carries the money. That system sets the speed and the cost. A fast method is not always the cheapest. A cheap method is not always the fastest. The label is the first thing to check before you enter an amount.
Timing of each leg in the payment route
A payment has two legs. The first leg is from your bank to the broker. The second leg is from the broker to your bank. Each leg has its own timing. PayID often completes the first leg in minutes. BPAY often takes one or two business days for the first leg. A card deposit often completes the first leg on the same day. The broker may hold the money for a short time before it appears in your trading account. That hold is separate from the bank transfer time.
The second leg is the withdrawal. A withdrawal request is not a payment. The broker reviews it first. That review can take one or two business days. Then the money is sent. If it goes by bank transfer, the bank adds its own processing time. If it goes back to a card, the card network adds its own processing time. Weekends and public holidays in Australia can add a day. A withdrawal requested on a Friday may not be reviewed until the next business day.
Add the legs together to estimate the full trip. A PayID deposit can arrive in minutes, but a withdrawal by bank transfer may still take several business days. A BPAY deposit may take two business days to arrive, and the withdrawal may take another two. The route in does not set the speed of the route out. It sets the path the money must follow.
Why the return path follows the deposit path
Brokers are required to manage money laundering and fraud risks. One common control is to return funds to the source. If the deposit came from a card, the withdrawal goes back to that card. If the deposit came from a bank account, the withdrawal goes back to that bank account. This rule is not about your preference. It is about proving where the money came from and where it is going. A broker that ignores the source can face regulatory action.
A card has a limit on how much can be returned. The card network may only accept a return up to the amount originally charged. If you deposited A$500 by card, the card return may be capped at A$500. Any profit above that amount may need another route. That route is often a bank transfer. The broker may ask for bank details before sending the remainder. This step adds time.
If the card has expired, the return cannot go back to it. The broker must arrange another route. That route is usually a bank transfer to an account in your name. The broker may ask for a statement or a document to confirm the account. This check adds time. The same applies if the card was cancelled or replaced. The return path is fixed by the deposit, but the card itself must still be valid to receive the money.
Three routes for A$500
| Step | Amount | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Deposit by PayID | A$500 | Sent from an Australian bank account using a mobile number or email. Usually credited within minutes during business hours. |
| Deposit by BPAY | A$500 | A biller code and reference number are used. Funds normally clear in one to two business days. |
| Deposit by card | A$500 | Card deposits are often instant, but the broker may add a percentage fee. That fee varies between brokers. |
| Withdrawal back to the same method | A$500 | The amount returns to the source. Processing time varies between brokers and can be one to five business days. |
| One pip on one standard lot of AUD/USD | A$10.00 | One pip is 0.0001. One standard lot is 100,000 units. 100,000 x 0.0001 = 10 units of the quote currency, which is USD, converted at 0.6640 to about A$15.06. |
A broker may round the converted pip value, charge a deposit or withdrawal fee, or apply a currency conversion spread. These charges vary between brokers and are shown in the product disclosure statement.
Doing it once, step by step
Follow these steps in order to deposit A$500 and understand the full round trip. Each step builds on the one before it.
- 01
Check the deposit methods on the broker's funding page
Open the funding page and read the list of methods. Note which methods are local to Australia. PayID, BPAY and cards are common. Write down the fee for each method if one is shown. If no fee is shown, the cost may be in the exchange rate instead.
- 02
Choose one method and note its stated arrival time
Pick the method that matches your need. If you want speed, PayID may be the fastest. If you want a lower fee, BPAY may be cheaper. Read the arrival time shown next to the method. That time is an estimate, not a promise. It can change with weekends and public holidays.
- 03
Send A$500 using the details shown
Use the exact PayID address, biller code or card form shown on the screen. A wrong reference number can delay a BPAY payment. A wrong PayID address can send money to the wrong place. Keep the receipt from your bank app. The receipt shows the time you sent the money.
- 04
Wait for the money to appear in the trading account
Check the account balance after the stated arrival time. If the money has not appeared, wait one more business day before contacting support. The delay is often in the bank leg, not the broker. Have your receipt ready if you need to ask.
- 05
Request a withdrawal back to the same method
Submit the withdrawal request from the funding page. The broker will send the money back to the method you used to deposit. If you deposited by card, the card is credited first. If the card has expired, the broker will ask for another route.
- 06
Track both legs of the return
Note the day you requested the withdrawal. Add the broker's processing time, which may be one or two business days. Add the bank or card network time, which may be another one or two business days. The money normally arrives after both legs are complete.
The mistake most people make here
The common mistake is depositing with a card because it is fast, then asking for the withdrawal to a bank account. Most brokers send the money back the way it arrived, so the card is credited first. If the card has expired, the return can be delayed while the broker arranges another route. Before depositing, check the withdrawal rules for that method and keep the deposit amount modest until the full round trip is understood.Check yourself
A deposit of A$500 is made by card. The broker charges a 1.5 per cent deposit fee. How much reaches the trading account?
1.5 per cent of A$500 is A$7.50. The amount credited is A$500 minus A$7.50, which is A$492.50.
One pip on one standard lot of AUD/USD is 10 USD. At an AUD/USD rate of 0.6640, what is that pip worth in A$?
10 divided by 0.6640 equals about A$15.06. The pip value in A$ changes as the exchange rate changes.
A withdrawal of A$300 is requested on a Monday. The broker processes it in two business days, and the bank adds one more business day. When does the money normally arrive?
Two business days from Monday is Wednesday. One more business day is Thursday. The money normally arrives on Thursday.
Questions that come up next
What does PayID actually do when I deposit to a broker?
PayID is a payment address held by your bank. It looks like an email address or a phone number. You send money to that address from your own banking app, and the broker receives it through the same local system your bank uses. No card details are entered and no international transfer is made.
Why is a card deposit fast but a card withdrawal slow?
A card deposit is authorised immediately, so the broker sees the money quickly. A withdrawal is not a payment. The broker reviews the request first, which can take one or two business days. The card network then adds its own processing time before the money reaches the card.
Can I withdraw to a different bank account from the one I deposited with?
Most brokers send money back by the route it arrived on, so a bank deposit usually returns to that same account. If you deposited by card, the card is credited first. If the card has expired, the return can be delayed while the broker arranges another route. Check the withdrawal rules for your method before you deposit.
Do weekends and public holidays change the timing?
Yes. Business days exclude weekends and Australian public holidays. A withdrawal requested on a Friday may not be reviewed until the next business day. Each leg of the trip can gain a day this way, so the total is longer than the sum of the stated times.
What fees can sit between my deposit and the trading account?
A broker may charge a deposit or withdrawal fee, round the converted pip value, or apply a currency conversion spread. These charges vary between brokers and are set out in the product disclosure statement. The fee is taken before the amount is credited, so the balance is smaller than the amount you sent.
How do I work out the full round trip before I deposit?
Add the two legs together. The first leg is from your bank to the broker. The second is from the broker back to your bank. Each leg has its own timing, and the route in sets the path out, not the speed. Keep the first deposit modest until you have seen the whole round trip once.
In Australia
- Currency
- The Australian dollar, written A$ or AUD.
- Common deposit methods
- PayID, BPAY and cards. Availability varies between brokers.
- Regulator
- The Australian Securities and Investments Commission, ASIC.
- Withdrawal rule
- Money usually returns to the same method used for the deposit.
- Processing time
- Broker processing and bank clearing both take time. Total waits of one to five business days are common and vary.
The words used on this page
- PayID
- A payment address held by your bank that looks like an email address or a phone number. You send money to it from your own banking app, and the broker receives it through the same local system your bank uses.
- BPAY
- A bill payment made with a biller code and a reference number entered in your bank app. The money moves through the bill payment system, not the card system, so it is not instant.
- Business day
- A day when banks and brokers process payments. Weekends and Australian public holidays are not business days, so they add time to each leg of a payment.
- Deposit fee
- A charge a broker may take when money arrives. It is deducted before the amount is credited, so the trading account receives less than the amount sent.
- Product disclosure statement
- A document a broker must give you that sets out fees, charges and the terms of the service. The deposit and withdrawal rules for each payment method appear in it.
- Conversion spread
- The difference between the exchange rate you are shown and the rate used to convert your money. It varies between brokers and is one of the costs of moving money between currencies.
What to take away
- The route in sets the path out, so the method you deposit with usually decides how the money returns.
- A payment has two legs, and each leg has its own timing, so add them together to estimate the full trip.
- Each method carries its own cost and speed, and the fees and rules vary between brokers.
- Keep the first deposit modest until you have seen one full round trip from your own account.